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What happened in Shanghai, or a partial but strive-to-be objective observation of the most recent FMT

(Initially, I wanted to reply directly to this post, but I found out the answer becomes so long that a separate post becomes more fitting.)

I certainly do not claim to be the ultimate authority on this issue (Well, I didn't physically attend the FMT because I couldn't), and I am afraid that many at this time may no longer care about it anymore. But as I have observed the online discussion before and after, I think I can summarize a brief report on the Shanghai FMT, particularly the troubling part.


Before the Live

  • Time: Very unfortunately, the time of FMT was in overlap with the final exam period of most Chinse high schools/universities. Although to this time I have heard many stories of people attending FMT despite their coming exams or working appointment, in general, some who would have attended could not afford the time anymore. Meanwhile, traveling isn't easy for many people, especially students. But on this issue, I think final exams is the biggest factor stopping many Aqours fans.

  • Ticket Selling: Also unfortunate was the ticket selling mechanics. Lantis seemed to use a local agency. I still do not get how does that very agency handle the ticket selling, but many of its behaviors make it look like a ticket scalper (for example, stockpiling tickets). I even heard people joking (or serious accusing) it as "scalper." Without enough evidence I will not bluntly accuse it so but I think it certainly discouraged people from getting the tickets they want.

  • Growing Yakkai Culture: Yakkai and Ietaiger originated from Japan, but somehow they get a stronghold in China. (To clarify, both terms have contested definition but I will refer "IeTaiger" as a specific set of call actions and "Yakkai" as actions unacceptable community-wise. One is more objective the other is more subjective. But since IeTaiger is generally not acceptable in Love Live's live, it is almost interchangeable with Yakkai) In last September's delayed Live Viewing, people already complained that IeTaiger people almost destroyed the live viewing experience (and thus IeTaiger is generally considered as one of the Yakkai action). What's perhaps more serious is that the official never said anything formally about IeTaiger itself (besides banning UOs). That made a certain people started to believe IeTaiger is OK and legitimate during the live. So before the FMT, people were warned that IeTaiger people might strike again. Still, the general public felt that people would not have the courage to do such Yakkai stuff in an actual live, only to be proved wrong later on.

  • Yosoroad and Kananrail As they were successfully implemented in Seoul, other places wanted to try the same. Shanghai is not an exception. But a rumor said certain guys planned to sabotage it for some unknown reason. (those persons might be the very Yakkai people but the opposite could also be true) But preparation went as usual and the planner had the confidence that it would succeed.

The Live itself

I actually received pretty divided opinions on that (perhaps it is the very indicator that the live wasn't quite successful). I believe the actual experience is subject to each person's seating, character and general view towards Yakkai (eg. very serious or do not care)

  • Perhaps the fortunate ones: So far, the majority still said they enjoyed the FMT and had a good time there. Although many were aware of the Yakkai, they do not think it was as serious as many non-attendees claimed.

  • The unfortunate ones?: Others, however, are really angered. Some fell directly into the "IeTaiger zone," and from them, we start to know how serious was it. Basically it was loud and very interruptive to those who sit nearby, particularly during slow songs like Mijuku Dreams (yes, they even had Mijiku Dream version of IeTaiger call). Whereas as "fast song" could cover the noise by heavy background music, the slow songs have nothing to defend itself, which makes the IeTaiger especially annoying.

  • Yakkai: It seemed that the Yakkai people were concentrated in some specific areas. I cannot draw an exact map but from what I heard there was a group at the front and another group in the back seats. The "horrified" part is that many Yakkai people seemed to be organized. Of course, some were just lonely individuals doing his own stuff, but how could a group of Yakkai people be able to act as an organization and get concentrated seats is still worthy of reflection.

  • Is Yosoroad and Kananrail successful? I only know about the Kananrail. From the Kananrail organizer and the leaked footage (well, another infringement, although the poster claims that he does it to warn people...), it was only partially successful, or frankly, unsuccessful. While many viewers followed the instructions, others did not (either because they didn't know, or did not care). There was also a missing link due to insufficient people there. Moreover, in the center (the VIP seats actually) a bunch of people broke their UOs. (That position in technically not on the "rail track" but having a giant orange really disturbs the effect) It seems that those UO breakers were the very people who planned to sabotage the Kananrail or Yosoroad (and once again, we should reflect how did they get the positions they desired). Were those sabotagers related to Yakkai people in general? They claim they just aim for Yosoroad/Kananrail and not related to Yakkai people, but it is still a mystery.


Righ after the FMT, complains soared everywhere I visited. Now as people get calm down, they start to turn to more positive elements of the FMT or plan to actually do something to stop the Yakkai happening once again. Regardless of whatever they want to do, I think my mission of reporting should stop here. Whether it is a total disaster, a lesson to learn, a generally OK FMT, an enjoyable experience, or "it totally depends on the person," now rests on your judgment.


Edit: We now have more information from an FMT attendee u/niccolozy. it might be worth to check it out Edit 2: Another attendee u/Toki_Natsumi, and the comment

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level 1
119 points · 6 months ago

I do not understand the purpose of attending a fan meet which is a once-in-a-lifetime experience for many just to sabotage the performance. The seiyuus work tirelessly to help bring fans joy and happiness, and they do not deserve to be treated with the disrespect that they were shown. I hope that they are able to recover from the experience and that they are all able to move on and not have to have fear of a similar experience occurring again.

level 2

Just remember that there are lots of people in China. Quite a few could possibly buy out the whole franchise if they could convince their dads to do so. They live in a different world to the majority of people.

level 2
14 points · 6 months ago

They got money, connections and the desire to let out their worst side of their idol passions.

level 2

Remember that there are a LOT of people that just wants to see the world burn, and they get the kicks for that.

Sad reality that money is a certain driver for those types of people.

level 1

It really bothers me to hear that they were tigering during Mijuku Dreamer in particular. It's such a pretty song and the atmosphere it has is one of my favorites, I'd be pissed to hear tigering during that pause before the fireworks...

level 1

Time to squeeze my Yohane neso's bun for an entire night.

I'm from China, but was unaware from the secluded, rich people culture until a year ago when I paid more attention to it. The mall I used to frequent is now overrun with people with inherited money.

I personally have a cousin who's family owns 4 houses and 2 restaurants (which is nothing compared to the other rich ppl)

I don't really talk to her but she's well mannered and also a Love Live fan.

Also, Shuka's my favorite member and this was her area (like Korea was AiAi's)

She looks lovely in the dress and it makes me happy. Shuka is cute.

All of Aqours deserve better and the REAL fans deserve better. There needs to be some kind of black list or serious punishment/warning so this doesn't happen as much.

The entire world deserves to have Aqours fan meets but if this keeps happening, it might only be in proven places like Japan and Korea.

I hope the fan meets after this one are a lot better.

level 2
25 points · 6 months ago

这群人丢脸丢到国外了

level 3
3 points · 6 months ago

how literally true

level 4
4 points · 6 months ago

translation?

level 5
32 points · 6 months ago

These guys are so embarrassing it's even embarrassing us internationally

level 1
30 points · 6 months ago

Watched a video of the Ietaiger during the KoiAq pause after You's "I miss you". I really wish I can un-hear all of it.

Hopefully Taiwan fanmeet will be closer to Seoul's fanmeet.

level 2
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4 points · 6 months ago

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level 3

Lets not circular contents that infringe copyright laws.

level 4

Yeah fair enough actually

level 2

I wish I was as optimistic as you, because you do realize that Taiwan is a tiger pit right?

They're notorious even in Japan for off the charts yakkai levels

level 1
15 points · 6 months ago

Funny thing is that, event like this brings out the worst in humanity and the best in some ways. Like what someone pointed out before, some problems stem from not acknowledging the "unacceptable" behavior. Hopefully, this mishap will not affect any further FMT around the world. That they understand such behavior from a few people did not reflect a community as a whole

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Original Poster13 points · 6 months ago

u/ExAmbush I hope this long answer can help you. Sorry I do not directly respond to your question.

level 2

No problem. Thank you for posting this. This cleared up my mind.

level 1
30 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

I think maybe this is the first time that the Chinese fanbase has draw such attention internationally, although it's in such a sarcastic manner. As a fan who participated in both two sessions of the Shanghai FMT, I hope that posting some of my words here can help clarifying things a bit too.

During the Live

  • the IeTaiger call One of the big criticism is towards the Yakkai lovers disrupting the live, and I think the acknowledgement of this comes from the only few videos leaked to the Internet(which is also terribly wrong btw). From my personal experience, the influence caused by it largely depended on your seat. Those who were close to certain spots have suffered for sure, but in my position I only barely noticed some shouting in the distance, not even clear enough to recognize the content. For those who only watched those videos, things seems intolerable because these videos are meant to capture this kind of behavior so only those recorded very close to the yakkai groups are exposed.

  • Yosoroad Unlike Kananrail in the evening, Yosoroad during the day session was quite successful. Although suffered a bit from the not-well-suited seat arrangement, the overall effect was clearly observable. (Although, according to some leaders of the yakkai groups, we have to thanks the ticket prices that stopped them from taking the center VIP seats for both sessions.)

  • Yakkai phenomena About this astonishing phenomena exposed to you, it's very difficult to give a clear explanation. But first, blaming those yakkai lovers for intentionally sabotage the Kananrail is making some mistakes. First, the Kananrail project in fact didn't involved that area but the second floor, so technically speaking their behavior had little influence to it. Second, even if Happy Party Train was not performed, they would still make the same action. They are not some evil enemies of the LLSS project(in fact some of them are extreme fans who go to almost every seiyuu event). These toxic behaviors have no specific aim but only showing off, which make it even more difficult to put action against them. I've read the posts introducing Yakkai recommended by others. They are good, but sadly this matter is way more complicated than what a simple introduction can explain. I can only say that all the criticisms I see here have already happened inside the Chinese fan base for month, and inside the Japanese for a lot more time than that, but clearly it didn't help to stop it. If you have followed other news, you may heard that during one of the LV of FMT in Japan there was even a violence event when someone tried to stop the local Yakkai people. Back to 2nd, there was also IeTaiger calls serious enough to be captured for LV. The problem exists since a long time ago, it's just that China, as a close neighbor sharing a more or less culture base, has absorbed rather rapidly their culture, although it is a bad one. Why they are difficult to fight against? One point may help you think is that during the argues they can smartly hide behind the shield of individual liberty.

Outside the Live

Info about disgusting things mixed into seiyuu's gift box is another fire setting yet filled with rumor incident. The only thing I confirmed with my eyes is that there was indeed someone posted fuzokuten-like poster onto one of the flower stand made by fans. I also saw a photo saying that it was mixed into the gift box too but I didn't closely check the content of the image. All other things spread on the Internet are pure rumors without fact support. The existence of this kind of action sucks and it disgusts all of us. Just don't make it worse with any fake news.


In the end, I have to say that seeing all the discussions here and there, I feel more sorry about the fans dedicated their time and money supporting the Shanghai FMT. We have fans who prepared really beautiful callbook and character themed bracelets as gifts for everyone (one of them even took more than 10h's flight in order to help); fans who designed and made extraordinary flower stands at the site presenting their support; fans who put big efforts into making a custom chinese dress for Shuka (of course Korean fans take a big credit for been the 1st example); football lovers did publicity campaign to support Azul Claro Numazu soccer team; and of course those who planed the Yosoroad and Kananrail project. Also during the talk part, when showing the Miracle Wave and WATER BLUE NEW WORLD clips, the whole audience in the stadium did the call together automatically. Not to mention the excellent performance Aqours has brought to us. A lot more that is hard to express with my words.

If the problems and annoying behaviors in the videos and rumors were the only image of Shanghai FMT for most of the people here, then those heart-warming volunteers are also the Shanghai FMT and they deserve way much more attentions than the Yakkai incident. It is sad to see that the community focus only on the unfortunate news, left them unseen. Don't let this great event and all other good-hearted fans and heartwarming things be buried with the disgusting ones.

level 2
9 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

To be honest, I expected something like this to happen right after Shanghai fmt was announced, but kept an open mind that somehow they would get over this hurdle and pull something amazing. This doubt faded away slowly as i saw more and more or their plans being brought to light. I was glad hearing that the afternoon session yousoraod reports saying it was successful and thought "hey they can actually do it". Then after fmt reports started coming out about the negatives too.

It was really unfortunate that it was the evening session to which had live viewings where most of these things within the live happened. Specially those who were in the tiger prone areas. The experience for them was tainted just because a few bad apples decided to have fun for their sake not putting in to mind the others around them. Within the discord server we also have people sharing plans like the arm bands and the image girl costume and people were excited about them. I've also spoke to people who donated a fair amount of money to have a successful fanmeet. Alas the negative events did overshadow the actions of the good. I also feel sorry for the Chinese Lovelivers apologizing to this tweet chain and apologizing for the actions of their countrymen.

level 1
11 points · 6 months ago

Thanks for all the info. All the discussion about things that went wrong has painted a pretty negative picture of the event, but it's important to remember that it was probably a really cool experience for a majority of people there, despite a handful of issues.

level 1

Can someone explain what yakkai and Ietaiger are? I assume it's people being disruptive during the live but more specifically?

level 2

Found this link while trying to figure it out for myself, hopefully it can shed some light on what Yakkai is and why it's so disruptive
https://yujachachacha.tumblr.com/post/166037491258/hihi-same-anon-who-asked-you-about-yakkai-hehe

level 1

I heard that some of the seiyuus were also compromised, like Anchan getting sent bottles of peoples sperm and stuff in the present box, I heard that they might have been sent some hentai doujins as well, just really disgusting things, not sure if true or not I heard it from someone on Facebook.

level 2

Anchan getting sent bottles of peoples sperm

Actual reports say "unknown liquids" and did not specify exactly what they were. What that liquid is we will never know, but it would be best not to make such conclusions.

level 2

I assume that staff check what is sent first so that these kinds of things would never actually reach the seiyuu.

level 3

I personally expect such curating/gate-keeping to be an industry standard. Not every fan-delivered thing would be nicely-worded letters and gifts of good will.

level 2
Original Poster6 points · 6 months ago

First, we still do not firm evidence on that. It could be a rumor.

Second, of course we should condemn it if it is true. But the staff will check present boxes. In fact, this is the very purpose of setting up a designated place for gift giving.

level 1

I was pretty much in the dark about what happened there and you cleared it up for me. Thanks!

level 1

This is nearly impossible to prevent that kind of behaviour. It's sad and give a really bad image of chinese people with money. Even if more real fans had the chance to go, those troublemaker would still get enough seats nonetheless. In those kind of situation it's better to focus on the positive side of the event and not give them the attention they want.

level 2
Original Poster2 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

Certainly, I do not want the see this FMT be labeled as total disaster. But it is still surprising that some Yakkai people have such large resources and determination. For the Chinese LoveLive community, this is perhaps a warning.

level 1

I kinda want to point out that I attended the fan meeting. In Shanghai, there were two that day, one in the afternoon starting at 2 PM and one in the evening starting at 6 PM I believe. I went to the afternoon show and nothing went wrong, the wave for Koini Naritai Aquarium still worked, I didn't see any UOs and overall the atmosphere was really nice. I believe all the events happened during the evening show so, I just wanted to point out that there are actually very few people who are like this...

level 1

As a newbie and a european I am baffled by this article and obviously disappointed. Nevertheless, I do have lots of questions:

First of all, what do IeTaiger and Yakkai mean? I do understand in context that it's about heckling and disruptions but could I get the nuances? Google was a bust on that.

Second: Your replies seem to imply that some are actual fans trying to hog all the fun by disrupting the enjoyment of others? Am I correct?

Third: Coincidentally, you guys don't really mention the possibilities of just haters with too much time and money... Why?

Fourth: How are some any differents from the other sex-fiends that creep around female celebrities?

And last but not least: Y'all are using words like "organized" and "culture"... That's terrifying, is it that developed? Are those jerks that numerous?

Very long reply and I'm sorry for that, but I'll probably never get the chance to have the toxic side of the fandom better explained...

level 2
7 points · 6 months ago

https://blog.platinumdis.co/the-boy-who-cried-tiger/

This article provides a great explanation for what Ietaiger and yakkai are, as well as their origins and etymology for the first one.

level 3

Thank you :)

This article indeed clears the origins and deeds a lot. Although, I gotta admit, I can't understand why would anyone put practicing the calls and responses in the same bag as damaging the venue...

level 4
3 points · 6 months ago

It all depends on how disruptive everyone's being. If this were a rock concert with a mosh pit and all, the behaviors of the Tigerers would be considered relatively tame tbh. However, in the context of an anisong concert/idol live, where fans are usually much more well-behaved, it can be seen as disruptive. Not to mention, one case the article mentions was the guy who put a 10 cm dent in the wall. It all depends on subjectivity, but in extreme cases yeah it can indeed damage the venue.

level 5

I suppose indeed that the context is important, also I don't know the demographics but I also think that having youngsters and teens within the audience makes such an attitude even worse.

level 6
Original Poster3 points · 6 months ago

From my impression of many demographic surveys, most LoveLive fans are under 30. A great deal of then are high school and college students (which actually includes myself lol)

level 3

As a follow-up, I would like to point out that article, while a decent 10,000 foot overview, does have a bias to it. For another perspective, see:

https://omonomono.com/2017/10/22/eventer-police-meta/

Taken together, a more neutral viewpoint can be formed on the climate, at least, in my opinion.

level 4
2 points · 6 months ago

Thank you uwu

I personally judge these things based on "if everybody or at least a substantial amount of people are doing it, it's probably fine, but if you're one of a few doing it and people are giving you looks, it probably isn't" rule.

level 2
Original Poster3 points · 6 months ago

1, Yakkai and Ietaiger are already explained by replies above.

2, That is my impression. For people doing Yakkai maybe it also involves personal show off (thus disruption could be incidental despite the fact that many of them have clear knowledge of it). For people sabotaging Kananrail (if they do exist, which I think is the case), their action are more intentional.

3, Hater is what some are suspecting, but so far we do not have enough knowledge about those people. Considering that even in China, most hard core Muse fans right now are more likely to leave Aqours alone, Aqours haters really need some determination to sabotage the FMT. Also, a crazy Aqours fan may also do the Yakkai in order to show off/get attention.

4, (Still thinking about the answer)

Last, I use the word culture in a lose since. A certain amount of people does love Ietaiger and is willing to defend it. The fact that Lantis says nothing specifically on it also boosts their confidence. But the majority of LoveLive fans do not accept Ietaiger. So you may treat Ietaiger and Yakkai as subculture.

By being organized I mean that some Yakkai people and Kananrail sabotagers seemed to band together and get desired seats that were close to one another. I think they could only achieve this by organizing themselves (and of course with other favourable conditions). But I am sure there were also some stand-alone Yakkai persons.

level 3

Thanks a lot to you for taking your time to clear up my questions, and to this awesome reddit for all the detailed replies. I know it must be the last subject anyone here wants to talk about and I truly appreciate the explanations. It's sad to see that the devotion LL get in Asia can turn this toxic, especially with a franchise that is, at heart, all about positivity. I really hope Lantis take action, if only for their image as a company. I gotta admit that I am taken aback by all this since, in France, LL is genuinely loved by lots of young women and teenage girls, meaning that if such an incident were to happen, the blowback would be staggering. It's also a sad reminder that the transition from Muse to Aqours was not smooth, in spite of Sunshine going the extra mile to be a better anime...

level 4
Original Poster1 point · 6 months ago

in France, LL is genuinely loved by lots of young women and teenage girls

I am still gathering stats for China and Japan. Yet the general impression (or stereotype) is: in aggregation, the ratio is about the same, with boys/men being slightly higher. (I will say 6:4 might be a good guess). But males are more likely to attend lives (seems like a 9:1 ratio) whereas females are more dominant in fanart.

level 5

I'm more talking from personal experience here. My dad is a photographer and works with several local conventions, and while I do live in a rural area with mostly middle-sized cities, there is lots of cosplayers and LL female fans, most of them quite young, and indeed far from the average image of the anime fan. I know this is a bit biased since being middle cities, there are no universities so the majority of the youth is made of teenagers.

level 2

One of my closest friends is a Chinese and based on his statement, this is somehow, one of the pre-opted mindset of his country, atleast to some, not to generalize completely and all.

This is also an idol concert so in context, fans should be atleast behaved, but should still have fun.

I personally think that there is no sufficient evidence to claim that there might be the presence of love live haters, but there is a possibility, so your right on that one

For all it may seem, this might just be the effects of embodying the said "idol-hype" culture all to soon, so incidents involving IeTaiger and Yakkai (which was explained up above) may be expected...

level 1

About the ticket selling, someone mass bought the tickets then sell it to the fans at higher price (or same price?) because they think it'll sold out pretty quickly, but even then, the event wasn't sold out. I would think if the event was sold out quickly, then the Yakkais wouldn't get a sniff into the event to sabotage it.

level 1
3 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

As much as I love Chinese culture and history, I have always been told by many people online and in real life of how bad some Chinese people's attitudes are. That is not to say, of course, that I can judge or assume that all of Chinese people are bad. I'm sure a majority of them are good people as well, just like how it works in the rest of the world. But I guess what I'm trying to say is that some Chinese are more extreme in their delinquency. This incident is actually the first I ever saw of it, or at least cared about it. And even then, we're not even really sure just how bad the situation really is.

I really have no idea what I'm trying to say, maybe I'm just getting anxious and worried about the cast.

level 2
Original Poster3 points · 6 months ago

We sincerely hope it didn't influence the seiyuus on the stage. But since no one else besides them was on the stage, technically we do not know how they feel. There were rumors saying they got upset or even cried, but they are mostly debunked right now or do not have sufficient evidence to prove the case.

level 1
6 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

I dont know too much about the motivations behind these vile creeps to do this, but i believe muse continues to be very liked in China and aqours not so much.

Prompting some really awful otaku (the same kind as the ones to send actual death threats, and as such the worst part of idol and seiyuu fandoms by FAR) to go ahead and do this crap, and make seiyuus fear for tgeir safety and for their life just because tgey committed the crime of acting for an anime girl they don't like.

However the Yakkai explanation is reasonable and all the more frightening. I've never even heard of people just doing this because it's a "cool culture" to be vandalizing, awful people and it's saddening to see they are spreading.

It's fine to hate the 2d girl or even sunshine, it's not god damn fine to break things, harass people and send them creepy, disgusting things to make them intimidated and scared.

The very purpose of the concert and fanmeets is to get together in this thing we all like and feel joy. I'm getting sick.

level 2

Every fandom has its creeps and jerks, but this story is just baffling. Especially compared to how swift any western company acts when the toxic part of its fanbase goes out from the woods. If you compare to the comics industry, a simple sexist Twitter post toward a writer prompts official statements, colleagues banding out together in defense etc... I really hope Lantis get their S together and ask themselves how on Earth-chan did they allow people like this to proliferate.

level 2
Original Poster3 points · 6 months ago

Although some suspect Aqours haters were involved, right now we do not have enough evidence to say anything about the general identify (or identities) of those Yakkai/Sabotage.

Yakkai is also unacceptable among Muse fans, and a crazy Aqours fan may possibly do the IeTaiger in order to attract attentions.

level 3

Very true, Yakkai is just all but acceptable no matter the motivation.
Their intention was to attend a public event to wreck it. Inexcusable and a surefire way of souring the enjoyment for all the fans (especially ones unfortunate enough to be caught in the middle of a group of IeTaiger people).

level 1
2 points · 6 months ago · edited 6 months ago

One thing's for sure, these people who've devised the scheme.....

just....completely embarrassing.... i couldn't think of a more appropriate word.....

Just the mere fact of altering Yousoroad and kananrail, it's just something that's surpassed even the word "stupid". I empathize with the LL fans who've payed lots just to get to the concert, meanwhile, these people who'd just recklessly pay for VIP tickets with the intent of sabotaging the said acts.....completely horrendous....

but hey, for all we know, the incident about the gifts etc. could just be a rumor or a hoax. We don't know for sure since their is only specified information.Don't get me wrong, as a guy from a small, democratic, neighboring country, I'm completely ashamed of their actions, and this could mean a lot to the future of fan meetings and to the cross-cultural interactions of LL with international fans....

But, there's also the LL fans from china who've contributed a lot to the event (you can check additional sources as to the efforts they have done for the FMT. It was just remarkable). I could just imagine the thrill that filled them as soon as aqours performed.

Just keep in mind that this might just be the effects of recently attaining the "idol-hype" culture that other countries are adept with. I just hope Chinese fans don't get marginalized because of this...cuz that would just be bogus generalization...

All in all, Aqours still managed to give it the best they got, and hey,

the fans were pretty happy with it..... i mean who wouldn't be....this is LL afterall....

level 1
3 points · 6 months ago

Tbh it’s things like this that led me to slowly leave the fandom. Actions like that are so disruptive, especially during slower songs (if you heard someone Tiger in a classical piece everyone would be staring at you), so I can’t help but think that the organized Tigerers are doing it just to spite the seiyuus.

Also, because I’m now around a year removed from Love Live in general, can someone fill me in on what Yosoroad and Kananrail are?

level 2

Yosoroad and kananrail: https://youtu.be/ckVWpvqMojU

level 3

That's..kind of amazing honestly.

level 3
3 points · 6 months ago

Thank you!

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Moderator of r/LoveLive, speaking officially6 points · 6 months ago

Remove the user names, links, and profiles on the comment. Please avoid posting information of the possible instigators for the current events to avoid witch hunting.

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Moderator of r/LoveLive, speaking officially6 points · 6 months ago

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level 2

I would rather not have seen that

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